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Notes:

Obstacles – 
Paying for training

How do you find training?
Metro
Online  
Regional organizations/ conferences
Higher Education Training consortiums

Online training – lots of folks participated, but not a lot like it.

Why not so good?
	Lack of interaction – no one to talk to (asynchronous sessions)
	Completing tasks – not the same as active learning
	When taking an online course – co-workers assume that you are they can interrupt you. (drive by’s in the cubicle environment)
	When taking a course with other people – it is a nudge to get it done. 
	But online training does offer flexibility for scheduling
	“Aspirational “ training harder to make time for
Ideas about Code4Lib preconferences:
	
	Digital humanities – data visualization
	
Other conferences for Code4Lib workshops	
	AMIA
	DLF

Topics – should they be deep technical of something you already know – or learn something new ?  Room divided . Tension between learning something to stay relevant, and learning something new.

MeetUp.com was noted as a resource.
Networking a key part of Face2Face learning.

Libraries themselves should offer more classes for library staff.
	Quick  -  that people can do in/on their own time.

*idea *Weekly code Read – picking popular items on github – invite library staff and other interested folks across campus
idea – Lunch and learns

“problem” – there is no one around in the immediate are that is doing what I am doing – reliant on virtual networks. Challenge of rural-based / small community developers. No just a lone technologist but this challenge is also for those who are working on very specialized programs – or someone who coding is only a portion of their job.

What constitutes good training?
	Hands on experiences – actually doing something.
	Walking away from something and knowing what to do next
	Having hand outs or documentation that you can take away
	Clearly articulate “why I am learning this”; how this skill can be applied, what you will achieve at the end of the course/training

	Practitioner-led training (community based training)
	Can we vote on what would be good sessions that can be translated to “road shows” ? 
	Led to conversation on post-rating sessions on level of “techiness”,  good teachers, “skills to know”
	What is the baseline knowledge? And can the baseline be achieved through online? 

Hacker Epistemology?  A concept to explore.

You might not retain the knowledge – but you retain the confidence from learning a new skill. 

Mention of an Edx.org course that talks  about this.

How do you less anxiety during a session when you feel absolutely lost? 

F2F and Online training can create a community of learners – how do we create a community around a skill set/ tools – in order to support the learning effort – and community understanding.

Pressure to learn as a result of not being able to work with the department or personnel who have the skills already.

How to you bring new learning back home? How do you empower folks at your institution to learn new things, beyond naming and shaming? How do we foster a learning environment at home? Repurpose discarded hardware to be used to build learning environments/sandbox environments.  Also mentioned – EC2/Amazon to created a sandbox environment. RailsBridge walks you through setting up an [XX}environment as well. Another resource is AppFog https://www.appfog.com/

Other training besides technical:
Management training
Intro to Hacker culture for managers that did not come up through developer community
Problem Resolution 
Meeting Facilitation Training – DeEtta Jones was mentioned as a resource
Communication training – on a number of issues.
Marketing Training
“how to talk to” series: librarians, managers, sys admins
Managing Bureaucracy
Project Management Training – has to be open to everyone – across the board
Technical Writing/Documentation
More Train the Trainer Workshops