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		<title>Rlfrick: Created page with &quot;Notes:  Obstacles –  Paying for training  How do you find training? Metro Online   Regional organizations/ conferences Higher Education Training consortiums  Online training ...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Notes:  Obstacles –  Paying for training  How do you find training? Metro Online   Regional organizations/ conferences Higher Education Training consortiums  Online training ...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Notes:&lt;br /&gt;
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Obstacles – &lt;br /&gt;
Paying for training&lt;br /&gt;
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How do you find training?&lt;br /&gt;
Metro&lt;br /&gt;
Online  &lt;br /&gt;
Regional organizations/ conferences&lt;br /&gt;
Higher Education Training consortiums&lt;br /&gt;
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Online training – lots of folks participated, but not a lot like it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Why not so good?&lt;br /&gt;
	Lack of interaction – no one to talk to (asynchronous sessions)&lt;br /&gt;
	Completing tasks – not the same as active learning&lt;br /&gt;
	When taking an online course – co-workers assume that you are they can interrupt you. (drive by’s in the cubicle environment)&lt;br /&gt;
	When taking a course with other people – it is a nudge to get it done. &lt;br /&gt;
	But online training does offer flexibility for scheduling&lt;br /&gt;
	“Aspirational “ training harder to make time for&lt;br /&gt;
Ideas about Code4Lib preconferences:&lt;br /&gt;
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	Digital humanities – data visualization&lt;br /&gt;
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Other conferences for Code4Lib workshops	&lt;br /&gt;
	AMIA&lt;br /&gt;
	DLF&lt;br /&gt;
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Topics – should they be deep technical of something you already know – or learn something new ?  Room divided . Tension between learning something to stay relevant, and learning something new.&lt;br /&gt;
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MeetUp.com was noted as a resource.&lt;br /&gt;
Networking a key part of Face2Face learning.&lt;br /&gt;
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Libraries themselves should offer more classes for library staff.&lt;br /&gt;
	Quick  -  that people can do in/on their own time.&lt;br /&gt;
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*idea *Weekly code Read – picking popular items on github – invite library staff and other interested folks across campus&lt;br /&gt;
idea – Lunch and learns&lt;br /&gt;
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“problem” – there is no one around in the immediate are that is doing what I am doing – reliant on virtual networks. Challenge of rural-based / small community developers. No just a lone technologist but this challenge is also for those who are working on very specialized programs – or someone who coding is only a portion of their job.&lt;br /&gt;
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What constitutes good training?&lt;br /&gt;
	Hands on experiences – actually doing something.&lt;br /&gt;
	Walking away from something and knowing what to do next&lt;br /&gt;
	Having hand outs or documentation that you can take away&lt;br /&gt;
	Clearly articulate “why I am learning this”; how this skill can be applied, what you will achieve at the end of the course/training&lt;br /&gt;
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	Practitioner-led training (community based training)&lt;br /&gt;
	Can we vote on what would be good sessions that can be translated to “road shows” ? &lt;br /&gt;
	Led to conversation on post-rating sessions on level of “techiness”,  good teachers, “skills to know”&lt;br /&gt;
	What is the baseline knowledge? And can the baseline be achieved through online? &lt;br /&gt;
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Hacker Epistemology?  A concept to explore.&lt;br /&gt;
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You might not retain the knowledge – but you retain the confidence from learning a new skill. &lt;br /&gt;
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Mention of an Edx.org course that talks  about this.&lt;br /&gt;
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How do you less anxiety during a session when you feel absolutely lost? &lt;br /&gt;
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F2F and Online training can create a community of learners – how do we create a community around a skill set/ tools – in order to support the learning effort – and community understanding.&lt;br /&gt;
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Pressure to learn as a result of not being able to work with the department or personnel who have the skills already.&lt;br /&gt;
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How to you bring new learning back home? How do you empower folks at your institution to learn new things, beyond naming and shaming? How do we foster a learning environment at home? Repurpose discarded hardware to be used to build learning environments/sandbox environments.  Also mentioned – EC2/Amazon to created a sandbox environment. RailsBridge walks you through setting up an [XX}environment as well. Another resource is AppFog https://www.appfog.com/&lt;br /&gt;
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Other training besides technical:&lt;br /&gt;
Management training&lt;br /&gt;
Intro to Hacker culture for managers that did not come up through developer community&lt;br /&gt;
Problem Resolution &lt;br /&gt;
Meeting Facilitation Training – DeEtta Jones was mentioned as a resource&lt;br /&gt;
Communication training – on a number of issues.&lt;br /&gt;
Marketing Training&lt;br /&gt;
“how to talk to” series: librarians, managers, sys admins&lt;br /&gt;
Managing Bureaucracy&lt;br /&gt;
Project Management Training – has to be open to everyone – across the board&lt;br /&gt;
Technical Writing/Documentation&lt;br /&gt;
More Train the Trainer Workshops&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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